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8 Reasons To Pass On The Dell Venue 8 Pro Tablet

Windows 8.1 small screen tablets are more annoying that fun. Windows Phone 8 is a better choice for small screens.

By Stephen Pate – Using a Dell Venue 8 Pro is a frustrating experience.  I spend  far too much time trying to find fixes or workarounds for mine. The more I use the Dell tablet, the more issues arise.  I’m not going to say I hate the Dell tablet but it comes close.

Microsoft Store

Update – the Microsoft Store dropped the price on the Dell Venue 8 Pro and mine stopped storing my Facebook login and password, an old bug returned.

To save this from being a rant, I have tried to find workarounds for the what I call “design deficiencies” in the Dell Venue.

Here’s the list: The 8″ screen is too small for Windows 8.1 Desktop. The battery saver turns off the screen at the wrong time.  The Home Key is in the wrong place. The screen is ultra touch sensitive. The onscreen keyboard takes up too much space. Dell updates are a kludge. And the Screen Narrator turns itself on at the weirdest times.

Dell sold a ton of the Dell Venue 8 Pro tablets before Christmas at prices from $199 to $329 which seemed like a bargain for a full Windows 8.1 tablet with Office.  I should have bought the Surface 2 and returned the Dell, but a Surface was 3 times the price.

I have also come to the conclusion Microsoft was right the first time: Windows 8.1 needs a 10″ or larger screen. Any mobile screen smaller should have Windows Phone 8.  In comparison, I rely on my Lumia 920 which has Windows Phone 8 on a 4.7″ screen all day long without a problem.

The base Dell Venue 8 Pro  has an 8″ screen, Intel Atom 1.8GHz Quad-Core processor, 32 GB flash RAM, MicroSD slot, USB port, Wi-Fi,  1.2 MP front-facing lens and 5 MP rear-facing camera, Windows 8.1 and Office Home and Student.  I have spent so much time trying to sort out the problems with this tablet, I can’t tell you if the cameras are good, bad or ugly.

It would also help if Microsoft completed the development of Windows 8.1 and did not use the Desktop, where most of the problems on small screens occur.

1. Windows 8.1 Desktop

You have to use the Desktop browser and Desktop applications to navigate Windows 8.1; however, the Desktop was not designed for 8″ screens.  Our fingers are too big to select the Desktop buttons and menu items in Internet Explorer 11. As a result, it is frustrating doing the simplest tasks on the Dell Venue 8.

One solution, which I reject as a nuisance, is the carry around the $40 Dell pointer that can select smaller menu items.  The special pointer is something to misplace when you need it most. It also takes away one of your hands that you might want to use to hold the tablet.  The iPad Air, Surface, Nexus and Kindle HD tablets don’t need a stylus.

My survival technique is to use only Windows 8.1 Modern Apps and the Modern Internet Explorer 11 browser. This solution does not work for MS Office, Desktop Explorer or any of the system screens that are used to manage Windows 8.1.

The only real solution is Microsoft has to complete the coding for Windows 8.1 tablets with the Modern interface, discarding the Desktop. Alternatively, an operating system designed for small screens like Windows Phone 8 makes a better choice.

2. Battery saving

The screen dims to save the battery. That would be fine if it did not dim right after you touch it.  If you are working with the tablet for a minute or two, it will dim after you select something, as though it cannot tell you are still working.

Dell had a problem with the screen saver from the first. The latest fix is only moderately successful. If you change the settings, the battery will not last all day which is a bad trade-off.

Solution: wait a few seconds and the screen will return to normal brightness.

3. Home Key on the side

The Windows 8.1 Home Key is normally in the lower middle of the screen. Dell put theirs on the upper side, next to the headphone jack.

The non-standard place is so different from every other Windows 8.1 device, it never comes naturally for me.

Solution: get used to it.

4. Ultra Sensitive touch screen

The touch screen on the Dell Venue 8 Pro is too sensitive and regularly mis-interprets touch gestures. For example, tap the space bar and it inserts a period “.”  Entering even small amounts of text is an exercise in frustration making you wish there was a real keyboard.

While the 8″ screen is sharp to look at, ultra-sensitivity combined with the little tick boxes and buttons on the Desktop make the Dell Venue 8 Pro a constant annoyance.

On the upside, for under $300, the screen has good color and resolution.

Solution: learn to tap very, very lightly.

5. On screen keyboard is too large

Dell Venue 8 Pro onscreen keyboard takes up most of the screen

Dell Venue 8 Pro onscreen keyboard takes up most of the screen

The 8″ screen is only 4″ high which is workable until you need the onscreen keyboard.  As soon as the keyboard appears, most of the screen is taken up by the keyboard covering the entry box.

Unlike the iPad and Surface, the Dell onscreen keyboard does not always pop-up automatically. It often needs to be coaxed from hiding and then asked to leave.  The keyboard is better than the one on the iPad Air for visual cues because it shifts the keys when you are in lower or uppercase.

Solution: use the Venue 8 Pro in Portrait mode for typing. That feels really odd since the tablet is much taller than it is wide.  I end up flipping to Portrait, typing in my user name and password and flipping back to Landscape mode.  Sometimes that gesture causes the input box to disappear.  You can also get an optional keyboard but that seems over-kill for an 8″ tablet.

6. Dell Updates

My Dell - updates and maintenance

My Dell – updates and maintenance

My wife says I am gullible, always hoping bugs are fixed with the latest update. I call it optimistic. Most tablets apply hardware, firmware and O/S updates automatically.

With the Dell Venue 8 Pro you have to go to the Dell site, identify your device by Service Tag and search for something new like a driver or BIOS update.  This is Dell’s old school thinking which is not normal for tablets. People are buying tablets because they are easier to use and do not like having to play computer mechanic.

Solution: Install My Dell and check for updates.  Even when you do that, the program does not reliably tell you what is already installed. Keep a written note of the latest drivers and BIOS updates you have installed.

The Checkup tool is largely a waste of time.  My Venue 8 is almost out of memory on SkyDrive. Running PC Checkup told me to delete large files, which would delete them permanently from SkyDrive, not a smart idea.

8. Screen Narrator

If you press the Home and Volume Button the wrong way,  the Desktop Narrator will start reading the screen to you.  I did it trying to get the screen shot of My Dell above. You can see the little icon toolbar with a bubble and computer screen. Hard to see isn’t it?  Narrator is even harder to turn off.

This is a feature for people with a vision disability. It will drive you crazy if you don’t need it.  Imagine a robotic voice reading every label on the screen. “Double click to select. Double click to select.”

Without a stylus to pick at the tiny icon in the menu bar, the only way to shut it off is to restart.  When installing Miracast which uses Desktop screens, I triggered Narrator over and over reading in that annoying robotic voice.  The odd thing is the Screen Narrator is difficult to start accidentally on the Surface or any desktop.  I knew it existed. I can’t get rid of Narrator on the Dell Venue which could make it a good tablet for people who can’t see. No, the screen is too small.

9+ Sundry other things in Windows 8.1 that don’t work

Windows 8.1  Charms/Share does not work reliably for Twitter, StumbleUpon, LinkedIn and other social media sites. Solution: If I want to share a story on Twitter,  compose the Tweet in Notepad, copy the text and go for Charms, Share, Twitter. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn’t.

You cannot play music from other computers on the Homegroup in Xbox Music.

Internet Explorer does not re-size screens to fit the 8" Dell Venue. Example - Microsoft Community support

Internet Explorer does not re-size screens to fit the 8″ Dell Venue. Example – Microsoft Community support

Most webpages don’t size properly to the 8″ screen with IE11 including the Microsoft Community support forum. You can’t pinch them smaller: they bounce larger as if the pinch was pinch-to-zoom.

Miracast is advertised as easy streaming of “HD videos, photos or presentations from your Dell Venue 8 Pro tablet to your compatible TV.” Miracast is a dreadful feature with a difficult installation process and the need to enter a unique code every time you want to send a screen to the TV. Imagine how cumbersome that would be for say printers if you had to connect to your printer for each job and add a new security code every time. That’s Miracast.

I have to laugh at Intel who under-developed Miracast.  Intel announced wearables at CES2014.  That should have Samsung shaking in their boots.

SkyDrive on the Dell Venue 8 has error messages without any way to fix them. While you are supposed to be able to choose the SkyDrive directory as online only, which uses less room, the feature does not work for me on the Dell Venue 8 Pro. It does not take long to fill up the 32GB flash ram.

SkyDrive support is weird. MS support moderators rarely post the solutions on Microsoft Community.  Solutions are sent by PM, which seems the antithesis of sharing information.

Resolution – in the end, I got tired of the endless issues with the Dell Venue 8 Pro and sold it.  I do miss having a Windows 8 device but will wait until Microsoft sorts out its operating system for small screen tablets.

11 Comments

  1. Kenneth Ketchum (Ketch65)

    I have had a venue 8 pro since they came out. I have no problems, as mentioned above due to using addon apps and progz to modify all things. The stylus is great as a mouse to navigate and the onscreen keyboard can be made smaller with various tweaks or mods, and adding a bluetooth mouse/keyboard combo makes it awesome to tote, to write/entertain me.

    I also have hooked mine to various tvs/monitors using otg to video mods/apps/progz and can share my musica and vids/media via wifi and bluetooth.

    Yes, the author of this article obviously does not like the design and there’s and definate learning curve when using such a device. This tablet has a ton of features and abilities IF YOU KNOW HOW TO MODIFY AND TWEAK IT, so I think the author due to a learning disability (with win8.1 based tablets) and that adds to the frustration.

    As we move into a world of technology accompanying us everywhere, we also need to realize things may not always be plug and play and dumbed down to what win95 was. We are now entering into a whole new world, and you need to educate yourself well, otherwise, as the author said, stick to win mobile!

    Thanks, and please forgive my grammar and spelling, etc etc,,, and please if I seemed biased or offensive, please, it was not my intention and I apologise for any symantics that might be wounded.

  2. Comment by post author

    Thanks for your comment. This part is impolite “so I think the author due to a learning disability (with win8.1 based tablets)” but I may take your suggestion and apply for SSD for my learning disability.

    Apple made tablets popular by making them simply to use. Buy one for your mother and she will love it. iPads make people happy, etc.

    Samsung Android tablets have crossed into the world of easy use as well.

    Microsoft tablets are for aficionados, techies and people, whom like yourself, like to tweak things. Windows 8.1 tablets make poor gifts for people who just want to use a tablet and have fun.

    I run several Win 8.1 desktops, Win server and Win Phone and a Windows RT tablet. They all have their place. The 8″ Windows tablet is not ready for the consumer market until Microsoft finishes Windows 8.1, IMHO.

  3. None of these problems on my dell venue 8 pro

  4. Jim Wagner

    I see all if the problems and more on my Dell Venue 8 Pro. It’s just a piece of junk in my opinion. Author did not mention the design flaw that causes wifi to drop continually (wifi power save is the culprit here). I only started using this thing about 4 months after purchase so I’m not sure I can return it. If I can’t I’ll just give it away and eat the loss.

  5. Tarence

    No issues here. I just wish the keyboard would auto-start when I want to input text. Other than that this unit is great.

    I do know there is a learning curve which most are too LAZY to learn. I see this a lot on the forums. “Not working like my PC, Im returning it!” Geez… They walk among us.

    DVP8.1 64GB
    all updates.

  6. Comment by post author

    I put way more time into the Dell Venue 8 Pro than most people would because I wanted to know. I owned computer companies and made a living making stuff work. It’s a piece of crap but the worst is Windows 8 on small screens. The Desktop mode is hopeless at 8″.

  7. Ron Jeud

    You can turn the automatic dimming feature off btw, not sure why you never googled that to figure it out, I had that turned off within 5 minutes of owning the tablet. The touch sensitivity and touch screen in general are complete garbage though and that is the only reason I will be ditching it soon.

  8. Comment by post author

    Thanks for the comment. The automatic dimming feature had a dodgy history that Dell/Microsoft kept patching with varying levels of failure.

  9. My Venue 8’s an update for an XP netbook that had a hard drive failure. Still waiting to get it into the hands of a trustworthy repairman (friend) who can fix it best. I keep it plugged in most of the time, but why give such a short cable?

    In general I like the u 8, but screen touch sensitivity is a hassle. More hassling, though–and if there’s a fix I’d like to know–is the automatic screen-size changes (up/down) when my (non-Dell) stylus touches the screen, say to swipe for a page down.

    One big gripe: If you don’t allow updates when IT wants–by waiting to read a dozen open tabs, it’ll shut down any Wi-Fi access until you do the updates. THEN it will allow access.

    BTW1, I have a low-tech fix for using the stylus in general: put a rubber band on the pocket clip, wrap that on a couple fingers. It won’t fall far if you drop it, and if it falls among many things on the floor, the rubber band sort of jumps out at you. Also, with a larger rubber band, you can release the stylus easily if you want to use fingers.

    BTW2, You can turn off the double-tap-the-space-bar-get-a-period thing. Look under TYPING:Typing; It’s the third option.

    Sorry for the anonymous name.

    Thanks.

  10. Chris

    My Dell Venue 8 Pro is one of the biggest mistakes I’ve made. To find some use for that little handicapped device I tried clock / internet radio. Even with all the power-saver crap set to NOT cut the screen, because when the screen is cut off the sound goes dead, it still goes to sleep, requiring a swipe to wake it up. Dell Venue 8 (with windows) Pro is garbage. Plain and simple, Windoze sucks on mobile devices, and Dell making a device that won’t allow another OS to be loaded, makes this device pure garbage for the money.

  11. Linda L Webb

    I bought that piece of junk too…probably have 15 hours on it…TRYING to get it to do something…anything. Says I may need new driver…but of course if you can’t access the internet, forget it. I broke a cardinal rule I made some 10 years to NEVER buy another Dell product….and this is my payment. $300 for a paper weight.