Amazing article. When I read the above, it all makes sense. My father was a JW for 40 years before he passed away from cancer and had extreme mental illness and bizarre behavior. Although he did not go to the extremes that the Gariddos did, he too was an emotional mess and controlled by the JWs. Thanks, La Ria

Harry Har is not one of Jehovah’s Witnesses.

Harry Har is not a Witness…

“Having been an elder with them for over 30 years…”

His language even from his very first sentence is “off”

With Jehovah’s Witnesses, it’s all about appearances and keeping the image of holiness. They will deny and excuse away any evidence that their organization breeds fanatics and unscriptural behavior. Pity is the only emotion I can feel for them.

FUNNY, how these things happen more often in those who call them selfs catholics, and yet no one publicizes their religious believes when they are cough committing crimes like Garrido. But if its a witness its all over the news. I am not a JW but I think these people try to help other and yes they as well make mistakes! What other religions are willing to help others besides just wanting their money?.. Next time a witness knocks on my door I will take the time to ask questions and listen..

JW’s have had over 100 years of hiding their scandals behind the Watchtower magazine. The reality is they are as riddled with scandal as any religion that seeks to put happy face on perversion.

FUNNY, how these things happen more often in those who call them selfs catholics, and yet no one publicizes their religious believes when they are cough committing crimes like Garrido. But if its a witness its all over the news. I am not a JW but I think these people try to help other and yes they as well make mistakes! What other religions are willing to help others besides just wanting their money?.. Next time a witness knocks on my door I will take the time to ask questions and listen..
Belinda

5 Dec 09 at 10:23 pm

BIG difference- ALL JWs are considered ministers and go knocking on the doors of people in the neighborhood. Not the case with Catholics. If a Catholic priest, or a minister of another group commits such acts it definitely is mentioned as part of the story.

Lifelong Jehovah’s Witnesses dissident speaks out on JW belief system .

A) They are at your door to recruit you for their watchtower society corporation,they will say that “we are just here to share a message from the Bible” this is deception right off.

B) Their ‘message’ creed is a false Gospel that Jesus had his second coming in 1914.The problem with this is it’s not just a cute fairy tale,Jesus warned of the false prophets who would claim “..look he is here in the wilderness,or see here he is at the temple.”

C) Their anti-blood transfusion ban against *whole blood* has killed thousands.

D) once they recruit you they will “love bomb” you in cult fashion to also recruit your family & friends or cut them off.
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Danny Haszard Jehovah’s Witness X 33 years

Harry Har- IS A LIAR! No elder speaks in that tone or with that type of language. As for Danny Haszard, he is a fake and a liar. >>>The Watchtower corporation has paid out millions in hush money already.<<<
Where is your proof you lying criminal!! I wish the witnesses would be the type to take your libelous rotting apostate ss to court. But that is how those who never understood it operate when they cannot live up to the high moral requirements of being a witness. I was a Witness 20+ years ago and I still miss being one. I am trying to get back now. 20+ years later and I still do not have one single bad thing to say about the organization. They do not condone any form of wrong doing. The bile teaches forgiveness and that if a person commits a sin, that person should be counseled and helped to reform. And all steps are taken. Disfellowshiping is the final last resort when such a person continues with the bad ways. I find it despicable that ex-Witnesses can be so vitriolic. You never had a good understanding of what the Truth was about, otherwise you would not say the evil and vicious things you say. But just like a person who gets fired from a job for poor performance and breaking the rules is angry, so are you people. I would encourage, ALL of you who have never been to a Kingdom Hall or a Convention, just please take the time to attend one of the meetings and at least one convention and see for yourselves first hand who they are and how they teach. Then come back and report if you still have the same thoughts or worst and give explanation and examples to support your belief.

I think your article is disingenuous. Where is your proof that this woman or even that creep was one of Jehovah’s Witnesses? I read the SFGate article and this quote, proves my point: “When Garrido subsequently appealed his sentence, however, his lawyer said he was getting help in prison and had become a Jehovah’s Witness. In a handwritten letter to a judge in March 1978, Garrido said he was ready for a chance to “get my life in line.”

“I am so ashamed of my past. But my future is now in controle (sic),” he wrote.
How Garrido got out

Garrido lost the appeal and spent his prison time in federal lockups in Leavenworth, Kan., and in Lompoc (Santa Barbara County). ”

See he LOST the appeal! He was released based on the local prison rules which allow him to be released on his own “good behavior”. I can tell you, this woman may have been, I say may have been, but she sure was not a Witness, neither was that evil creep. I don’t even understand why they would put that out there without any proof. Like I suggested, just for your own personal first hand knowledge, pick yourself up one day and go. If you were one, still pick yourself up and go one Sunday and see if you still come away with the same beliefs and thoughts. I guarantee you will not. If you do, then when you write articles like that, you would be better informed. i don’t know man, maybe I am talking to a reasonable person! I hope I am.

Harry Har said “When Armageddon hits we don’t know what Jehovah will ask us to do…but if he does ask you’d better do it. I know I will!”

And Harry, how will you know if Jehovah asks you to do something? Will you trust a statement from the Society (i.e. Governing Body) as the mouthpiece of God as coming from God himself? So if one of the Governing Body tells you to go and slay some “worldly” person, would you it?

Wait Did they just call Jw”s a cult…. hu. thats strange so believing in god and Jesus makes you apart of a cult… so That would Make 60% of the religions out here cults… seriously come on this is all bullcrap. im not a Jw but i have talked to them i have gone to one or two of there meetings. every religion has people out there trying to make them look bad. And what is this bull crap about “C) Their anti-blood transfusion ban against *whole blood* has killed thousands.” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAWhRqCjT9w Blow that out your ass

A simple test for any religion. If and only if everything they teach and do is the truth can they be considered Christs Church. G?d says that even if a prophet speaks only the truth but leads the people a stray by deed then he is of Satan.

I’ve have yet to come across a single religion whose teachings are 100% true, never mind their actions, including my former religion.

Since every single one of is a sinner whether by commission or omission we’ll all have a debt to pay back for our time here.

Good Luck to all.

I was a Witness for over 25 years. I am grateful for having been raised in a religious organization and by parents that guided me to be a good person. I suspect that anyone raised in a religious household that sincerely listens to the teachings of the bible and desires to please god will have the benefit of a solid and moral spirit to guide the rest of their life. I am no longer a follower of that religion but I am happy that I have that background, just as happy as if I had been raised Catholic or Baptist or any other religious group trying to honestly make a difference in the lives of all people.Yes there probably are members at the Kingdom Hall that cover up or ignore or just don’t pay attention to such evil degenerates but you can find those people in any religion just like you can find honest people trying to serve god the best way they know how. I have since given up organized religion because I have come to believe that every religion is full of hypocricy and sinners using the religion as a shield to hide their sins, some small sins and some as evil as the Garridos. The argument should not be about which religion to which these miscrients claimed to subscribe because that is as irrelevant as where they were born or if they like the color purple. The wiring in their brains is faulty and as unfortunate as that is, God, if you so believe, will judge and punish them, hopefully in a way they deserve that equals the suffering of poor Jaycee and her two daughters.

REALEX-JW, I find it shocking that you call yourself a JW and your tone and comments are so hateful and non-Christian. Its funny how you call names and can’t even set an example like you are taught. “rotting apostate”?

Your an apostate. JW’s do not go door to door to recruit people. They go door to door to take the message that the Bible says to do Matthew 24:14.

Get your facts straight about 1914, even Non Witnesses know that. Your supposedly a 33 yr JW? Yeah I don’t think so… I even know that.

Their anti blood transfussion is not what killed them. It was their sickness they had and those people choose to not get blood. They are following the Bible and many non JW’s do not do blood transfussion either, because now a days there are more methods out there with bloodless procedures. JW’s have faith in their belief and put that faith in their god.

“Love Bomb”.. lol.. ok.. and you call them a cult.. lol.. Oh yeah, you are defintely mad at them for prob disfellowshipped you huh? YOu probably commited a sin and are upset you got caught and want to blame the JW’s for your sins. Tipical.. i’ve met some like you as well too.

I’ve talked to JW’s when they come to my door and i see how they really are. I’ve attended some of their meetings and they are nothing like people put them out to be. I had my doubts, and instead of talking BS about them, I decided to go see myself and investigate how they really are. Thats what peopple should do… actually go and investigate, not make up lies and just talk.

Just SAying.

Maybe Harry Har was disowned because he committed sins he was not repented for and is saying false statements. Harry Har if he really was a JW, he wouldn’t be talking negative about them… those who talke negatively are apostate. Trying to make them look bad.

Harry, I”m assuming you no longer are a JW. If you were, you wouldn’t be talking the way you were. You sound angry and vengeful…. sounds more like and apostate.

You are not a Witness.

LOL @ JustSaying. NO ONE CARES BRO. Go home.

what a dumb fictional article this is. Nancy was not a “devout” JW, she never even got baptized. She didn’t go preaching, and she didn’t go to the Kingdom Hall. She was supposedly raised by someone who was a JW but she was not a JW herself. The media made this error and broadcast it. If you’re gonna write something, at least be accurate. And Phillip was never a JW.

This whole article is unsubstantiated garbage. A blogger can say anything he wants. The same for a newspaper. If they are proven wrong all they have to do is say their source was wrong. and apologize. They do it all the time. I am one of Jehovah’s Witnesses. None of that stuff is tolerated. Gross wrong doing gets the offender disfellowshipped and reported to the police.

I was raised a Jehovah’s Witness. People need to know that if child molestation is reported in their organization they will do nothing unless there are 3 witnesses to the act. This means the organization provides a safe refuge for people who sexually abuse children. Before I heard Garrido had ties to Jehovah’s Witnesses he already reminded me of similarities to Jehovah’s Witnesses and my parents. It’s the kind of thing your gut tells you that you can’t put your finger on. Most JW parents are extraordinarily controlling. Many don’t allow their children to get jobs “in the world” and they aren’t allowed to associate with anyone outside of the organization. Going to college (unless it’s a trade school or city college) is not allowed. My parents basically had me under house arrest in my teens and I know others who went through the same thing.

I am both saddened and disgusted by what I read. I can’t believe that that man has any relations with any religion, especially the Jehovah’s Witnesses. I haven’t read all of the comments but from what I have read, I am ashamed of what some so called Jehovah’s witnesses have said. Harry Har, if you are a JW, how could you say something so mean in vicious about the anyone else. It is no one’s place to judge what will happen to anyone else. Liars, fornicators, what ever. We all have dirt and we still wallow in sin. Jehovah and Jesus are the only ones capable of judging anyone. And there are many more witnesses in the world than just “people down on their luck”. My mother has been a witness for over 20 years and never has she ever been down on her luck, in fact, we have been very wealthy for over 30 years now. There are even some rich people who are JWs. And as for the covering up of child molestation, I don’t know what happens anywhere else, but when I was twelve and was molested by my drunken father, the first person I went to was an elder in the congregation who I considered closer to me than a grandfather. Although he cared about my entire family, when I told him what happened, he contacted local authorities immediately and has been there loyally by mine and my mother’s side through my father’s trial for child molestation and my mother’s divorce of my father. Although I am not a baptized witness, I have been born and raised as one. My father was and still is not a witness. Looking at his example of what a witness does not do compared to my mother’s example of how a true servant of Jehovah should act, I find it hard to believe the man who kidnapped and hurt a little girl is or ever was a witness of Jehovah.

Once again it is amazing the guises used to create fear and disdain for one faith vs that of others much more dangerous, in this country. JW’s are more dangerous than even Zionists if one is to believe the horrors detailed in this and related articles. Every major religion, large or small, in the U.S. is a pawn to false teachings and filling souls with false hopes based on New World Order lies and propaganda, but fools focus mainly on JW’s. The argument used as some kind of legitimate proof being from misguided dreamers that left the organization – labeled a sect by other lost individuals – mostly to be free to do whatever it is they feel they want to without answering to a higher authority, as is the norm in America. In this country, porn being a mutli-billion dollar business, children & teens on the streets selling themselves to survive, prostitution just as prevalent as in third world countries, child porn all over the internet, men wanting to be women, women the opposite than born, marriage not anymore between only man and woman, but fools still focus on JW’s. Utterly ludicrous.

Sadly Kira, he was stated to be a Witness and that’s all it took to blame the entire organization for his behavior. I will never believe a person as bad as this individual or his wife was reported to be, would have good standing in the organization, much less so after its revealed what they did and were involved with. The whole Baptist organization isn’t labeled negatively by the actions of its individual congregation members, in fact most often the religious affiliation of arrested convicted individuals is not even mentioned. It is when its an individual associated with Jehovah’s Witnesses, however. Seems deliberate IMO, but you have to wonder why.

Others are welcome to judge for themselves. Hopefully they are wise enough to see on their own that the sect has two sides and only shows the meek and docile side to the public. The reality is that it is quite poisonous and not Godly, as you have put it. It appeals to those who don’t want to take responsibility for their existence or actions but would rather be controlled and instructed in every facet of their lives. Actually that’s not totally fair of me, there are some good people in the religion but I can’t help but lump people together when good people standby silent when they know wrongdoing is being committed.

My comment posed a legitimate question about this beast having access to children and how the “elders” who lack the qualifications to deal with serious issues & criminal matters (and who, by the instruction of the governing body, do NOT seek outside help) but you attack me personally. Ok so let’s have this out.

My mouth isn’t negative, your perception is. “You weren’t happy and left” I like how this is your classification of a 15 yr old girl being raped by an older man & being punished by the elders for it when she should have been protected. Thank you for setting an example to the world (or whoever reads this post) about the true face of the religion, its a child rape victim who is the problem. Oh well, to coin my fav quote “You have no power here. Be gone before someone drops a house on you”

Your attack rolls off my shoulder and matters very little. I speak out loudly, and always will, about wrong I know to be taking place. I wasn’t raised Catholic, or Mormon, or Pentecostal or in any other faith so I can’t speak for their inner workings or abuses. But I was raised Jehovah’s Witness, was present in several congregations, was devoted, active, watched as my family was abused & ripped apart until one day my eye’s were opened & I started asking questions that no one wanted to answer. The heads
of the Witnesses have made decisions which have cost lives & runined families, they are not above reproach.

You are welcome to your ignorance if you like but bite me if you think you have the right to attack someone for speaking out. Go on back to being frightened and vicious, that’s not the life I live.

You go, girl! I admire you. Good answer!

You are totally blinded from the “truth” by your own version of the truth.

I was a Jehovah’s Witness who disassociated himself, and I know of two cases where sexual abuse by two different Ministerial Servant’s went unpunished. And I saw the effect it had on the victims. It wasn’t good.

The Watchtower is nothing but a NY publishing company posing as a “religion”. Thanks for bringing that out, JC. A lot of JW’s would balk at the idea that they worship a corporation, a.k.a. Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of New York, Inc. If you’ve ever attended one of their assemblies (or conventions, as the larger gatherings are called), you might be surprised how much the format resembles the conventions held by other sales organizations.

They are! No one in any organization professing faith in God, whose name is Jehovah, is free from those that will falter or fall. That said, you name one other group of spiritual minded people that are guided by Jehovah’s spirit? You cannot. Look deep into the core of each and every group that shows itself to be “spiritual”(I didn’t say religious) and you will find a seeking of cash flow, and/or a chasing or following of someone’s political aspirations.